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Kiwi
07-03-2003, 07:38 PM
Hi
I have a 3Axis mill with a Fagor 8055 controller.
I am a newbie and trying to write G-Code to rotate a profile.
The profile is a 3D path of 450 lines which needs to be passed along 12 times at 1mm Z levels.
Rather then duplicate the profile 12 times with corrected Z figures, I want to repeat the profile and alter the Z level.
Can this be done by altering the Tool Length Compensation.
This is a sample of what I have (may be all wrong):
Many Thanks
Kiwi.

N100 (IF(P1 EQ -1)P1 = -2) ;??
(IF(P1 EQ 0)P1 = -1) ;??
N200 G00 X0 Y0 Z15
G43 ZP1 ;?? Set Z Compensation
;(Start of Path)
G01 X0 Y0 Z0 ;Sample Only
X20 Y5 Z-7 ;Sample Only
X30 Y8 Z-12 ;Sample Only
;(End of Path)
N400 G00 Z15
X0 Y0
(RPT N100, N400) N3
G44 ;?? Canel Z Compensation
N500 G73 Q10
(RPT N100, N500) N3

hardmill
07-03-2003, 08:45 PM
How about showing us a sketch and the code you have
so we can better understand.
PEACE:D

Kiwi
07-04-2003, 04:20 AM
Hi Hardmill, Thanks,

Shortened version.

JPEG & Txt files attached.

Regards
Kiwi

Per_N
07-05-2003, 06:29 AM
Suggest.
Make a loop.
Set #1=0 (Loop counter)
Set #2=1 (Cutting depth)
While #1 LE 12 DO 1 (Something like this, not sure)
your countour comes here, and change all your Z levels to
Z[your value - #2]
#1=#1+1
End loop

Not sure about the exaxtly typing, have to look in the manual for that.

What do you think? could it work.

Per

Kiwi
07-06-2003, 07:29 AM
Hi Per_N,

Thankyou for your reply.
If I understand you correctly, your solution is stepping the Z value in increments to the value of #2?
If this is correct, I don't think that is what I need.
My problem is that this is a 3D profile, and the Z value is changing along the path.
I have found that my controller has a Zero Offset Table with Codes G58 & G59. I am still trying to find out if this is my answer.
If someone know a little about these codes I would appreciate any advise.

Regards
Kiwi
NZ

Jennifer
07-06-2003, 09:36 PM
Kiwi-

My machine uses these codes...incremental offsets (both G58 and G59). If you're looking to repeat the same program you'd change it to:
(ORGX58=?,ORGY58=?,ORGZ58=?) The ?s being the incremental moves...if you're looking to move the part over 1" in X only and repeat the program with a deeper Z depth of, say, .25 you'd change it to:
(ORGX58=1,ORGY58=0,ORGZ58=-.25)
G58
(RPT N100,N400)

Hope that helps.

Jen

Kiwi
07-07-2003, 08:46 AM
Hi Jen,

Thankyou for your help, this looks like what I'm looking for.

Earlier today I changed the Z setting in the Zero Offset Table under G58 from 0 to -2(mm) , but when I run the program it stops with a warning...over riding the soft limits.

I've had another read of the manual and it covers the (ORGZ 58=?) that you refer to.
I'll study this further and have another go tomorrow.

Regards
Kiwi
NZ.

Per_N
07-07-2003, 10:16 AM
If i get your question right, you wan't to repeat the same path a number of times. But change only the Z value. If this is correct the my loop will work perfectly if you understand what I ment.

Regards Per

E-Stop
07-07-2003, 11:49 AM
If all you are wanting to do is run the exact same toolpath with a different tool length, try using the G10 command. You can incrementally change your tool length compensation by using:
G10G91L?P?Z-.1 ect
Check your manual to see what "L" you need for tool offsets (usually L10) and "P" will be the tool offset number.

Kiwi
07-08-2003, 05:13 AM
Hi Per_N

My understanding from the code you supplied is that the Z value is constant for each pass. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I need the Z value to change as this is a 3D profile.
I want to make each pass 1mm deeper then the previous pass.

Thank you for your help.
Regards
Kiwi.

Kiwi
07-08-2003, 05:25 AM
Hi E_Stop,

Thankyou for your help.
After trying to use (ORGZ 58=?) without any success, I now think your suggestion may be the answer.
Your G-Code must have some variations to what I use as G10 command for my controller is 'Mirror Image Cancellation'.
G43 is Tool Length Compensation which I am still trying is get to work.

Regards
Kiwi.

Kiwi
07-08-2003, 05:32 AM
Hi Jen,

Tried (ORGZ 58=?) but this appears to relate to the HOME Zero on my machine. Every time I ran the code I would lose my settings and it would run under the Home references.
This may be a factory setting?

Regards
Kiwi

E-Stop
07-08-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Kiwi

G43 is Tool Length Compensation which I am still trying is get to work.


KIWI--

G43 is typically a call for the Tool Length Compensation. So, G43 H1 blah blah blah just tells it to use the tool compensation amount in offset #1. The G10 that I referred to modifies the value in the offset so that the next time G43 calls for it, it will have changed by the 1mm you need.

Jennifer
07-08-2003, 11:10 AM
Kiwi-
You need to put in the part zero (G54) for the G58 to reference. I didn't look at your program before, sorry. Also, you're missing the G43 which should go after the T1 M6. I have the 8055 M controller - you shouldn't have to put in a D or H value...I'll send you a PM with one of my programs so you can get an idea of the layout.

Jen

Per_N
07-08-2003, 12:48 PM
Your wrong. The Z path would be change the amount that you put in the #2. But I see that I have forgotten one thing, you also have to put in third parameter that keeps track of the previos cut.
Like #3=#3+#2

I take this one more time.
#1=15 (Number of cuts)
#2=2 (cutting depth in each cut)
#3=0 (counter where we are)
#10=0 (Loop counter)
WHILE #10 LE #1 DO1
G0 X0. Y0. (STARTPOINT OF PATH)
G1 Z[0 - #3]
X20. Y5. Z[-7. -#3]
X30. Y8. Z[-12 -#3]
G0Z1.
#3=#3+#2
#10=#10+1
G0 X0. Y0.
END1
G0 Z10. (AFTER 15 CUTS THE PROG. WILL CONTINUE HERE

I hope you understand this.
This is how I should do in a Fanuc control, I don't now what Fadal have but I think they have Fanuc too or?

Regards Per

Kiwi
07-09-2003, 06:47 AM
Hi Per_N

Thanks for the explanation.
I'll need to study this further as my controller is a FAGOR and I suspect the code may vary?

Regards Kiwi

Kiwi
07-09-2003, 08:01 AM
Hi again Per_N

On further examination of your code I don't think this is a practical solution to my problem as I have about 450 blocks of code and if each one with a Z value needs to be modified to Z(-?-#3).
I can copy the profile code 12 times and I have a macro that can add the increments to the Z values but considered this a clumsy way.

Thankyou for your help.
Regards
Kiwi

Per_N
07-09-2003, 08:12 AM
Have you ever heard of something could Nc-Editor or change of postprocessor.

I don't want to be rood, but this is Sunday school programming.
Study the manual some more before you get into to this type of programming.

Good luck to you.

Per

Kiwi
07-09-2003, 06:21 PM
Per_N

Thankyou for your help and advice.

Kiwi.