View Single Post
  #10   Ban this user!
Old 05-14-2005, 07:37 PM
gar gar is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 1,498
gar is on a distinguished road

050514-1933 EST USA

miljnor:

We have not heard whether you solved your problem. Give us some feedback.

I have some further information that may help.

On all our HAAS machines from 1993 thru 2000 we get the same results as follows:

Pin 5 on the HAAS 25 pin RS232 connector is CTS and this is the hardware handshake input. I do not know if CTS affects XMODEM, but the CTS state ( -10v or +10 v, near zero is indeterminent ) has no effect on either DC or XON/XOFF modes. It does, as it should, control whether sending occurs or does not in RTS/CTS mode ( the hardware handshake mode ).

If CTS is -10 v relative to pin 7 (common), then sending is inhibited in RTS/CTS mode on all four of our machines. This results in a WAITING message on the HAAS CRT. No inhibiting occurs in DC or XON/XOFF modes from CTS. Exception is bug or hardware problem list below. This is adequate proof that CTS should not affect SENDING in software handshake mode.

If you disconnect any cable from the HAAS 25 pin com 1 connector and force CTS to the state described below, then the following results should occur.

1. Setup desired RS232 parameters --- baud rate, parity, stop bits, handshake mode (synchronization), and data bits. This is done under settings.

2. Select LIST PROG and put cursor on any program.

3. Push SEND RS232.

If handshake is RTS/CTS (hardware), then CRT should display WAITING as is expected if CTS is more negative than about -3 volts. The internal state ( logic 1 or 0 ) is indeterminent if CTS is open ( floating ). In other words HAAS does not appear to provide a pull down resistor on the CTS input.

If handshake is DC CODES (a form of software handshake), then program should transfer and end with SERIAL SND DONE.

XON/XOFF produces the same result as DC CODES. In neither case is any external signal required to initiate the send and state of CTS does not matter.

If in XMODEM mode, then system is simply hung with a display on CRT of SENDING. This is not good feedback, but one expects the system to hang.

Now for some confusing information. I have been able power up our 03 98 VF-3 and have it fail to send in XON/XOFF or DC and display a WAITING message with nothing connected to the HAAS RS232 connector. I do not know if I can repeat this occurance. Implies a power on reset initialization problem in HAAS. There is more to discuss in this area but I need more time on a related problem at a customer site with a similar effect but maybe not the same problem. At the customer site it appears to be a thermal problem.

When I was at the said customer site I call HAAS to determine whether CTS should have any effect in the software handshake modes. One tech had no idea. Another one told me that a negative signal on CTS would inhibit SEND in the software handshake modes. Clearly he does not know the logic of his RS232 circuit and software based on my above experiment on 4 machines spanning 7 years where CTS had no effect in software handshake mode.

But also there is or are hardware and/or software problems in two different machines at two different locations but of about the same year of build.

www.beta-a2.com


.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361