thats what I was looking for | | debogus that was an awsome link, thank you. scottsss I was thinking electric, only because I didnt want to deal with refilling the propane. good advise on the 220 i didnt think of that. I do have 220 and was going to buy the 120 model not even thinking. all good info guys thanks alot if you think of anything else just let me know. mike |