Originally Posted by NC Cams  The new, educated kid is a threat. Their knowledge gives them confidence which makes it harder to be intimidated. ALL jobs can be a situation of power vs control.
The meek are easily intimidated. Easily knocked down and built up the way the old timers want. It is hard to have knowledge, be meek and still have the attitude necessary to get ahead.
Having said that, why did the guy who unloaded make 3-4 bad parts WITHOUT asking for help?. Too much attitude? too much schooling? Too much "UofM" "I'm a degreed individual" attiude? Clearly the kid didn't know as much as he thought and he didn't "know it all". You fubar'd 3 BEFORE you found out about the setup trick??? I'd fire you for that on the spot as well.
FUBAR a machining, you lose some money for he owner.
Take my advice. LEarn to bite your tongue. Learn to ask for help even if it is NOT needed -
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Very insightful thought about the new guy being a threat. This lesson I learned.
As for making scrap parts. I wasn't given a setup sheet, or dimensions, or tolerances. He just showed me what to do and left me alone. I didn't realize i was making scrap parts till the next op guy came over to tell me. It was a, "make me busy doing a crappy job" situation.
Losing money for the owner is old skool thinking. I will tell you why... We don't live in the industrial age any more. From
http://www.epi.org/economic_snapshot...hots_20060621/
"In 2005, the average CEO in the United States earned 262 times the pay of the average worker, the second-highest level of this ratio in the 40 years for which there are data. In 2005, a CEO earned more in one workday (there are 260 in a year) than an average worker earned in 52 weeks." "In 1965, U.S. CEOs in major companies earned 24 times more than an average worker"
I can hardly support my family on a machinist salary but i need to be concerned about how much richer I'm making the owner? The difference is, when these guys grandfathers started the shops, they treated employees almost as part owners of the company.
I don't believe in the notion of "steal from the rich and give to the poor". But, i do believe in dignity.
And, i did bite my tongue. That's probly what got me into trouble in the first place. Should have spoken up (which i did partially on my review papers). In the end though, no warnings, no sitdowns, no verbal warnings. Nothing. Nada. Just the "step into my office" and "you're FIRED". Didn't even want to hear what i had to say.