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Old 07-21-2008, 10:03 AM
joesz joesz is offline
 
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pin man as an owner of a machine shop for 23 years and with 35 years of experience as a tool and die maker with a journeymans card ,CNC programmer and Engineer and I will tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about. I buy American when ever possible even if it costs more, certain things you just have no choice because they are simply not made in the USA anymore thanks to cheap third world labor.
And to all you wannabe economic experts if you would like a list of the jobs lost in this country just from my area in the last few years then you can start to spout free trade.It is not free trade when you are being flooded with cheap products subsidised by a foreign government, that used to be illegal in this country. It is not free trade when they are allowed to export food, drugs and of all things kids toys that are killing people in this country. It is not free trade when they are not held to the same standards we are in environmental issues in basic human rights issues. How can you possibly defend this so called free trade how can you even call it free trade, do you even know what that means
As for quality being as good or better again you have no idea what you are talking about you must be watching too much TV how many of you have direct experiance with this, none? I am seeing products being brought back into this conuntry because of the garbage, poor deliveries and outright fraud by China, substituting materials or using substandard materials not matching specs. You can spout free trade all you want there is no such thing as free trade. Anyone that thinks this is helping the people of China .
watches too much Fox news they are being exploited and now that they are starting to see that the work is going to even more depressed places. I can tell you these are facts I deal with this on a daily basis so do not try to pit what you hear on TV against what I have direct experiance with.
I did hijack this thread and I am sorry for that some of you are blind and need to open your eyes, stop listening to what you hear on TV or read in the papers it does not reflect reality. I know I will get flamed for this but since I took this off track in the first place I wont post again. Let me say one final word any one of you that is for this unbalanced trade with China should move there and get the heck out of this country.
Inflateable your comments about capitalism and free markets for profit make no sense in this post you are so far out of touch that further discussion on the subject is pointless. When you have some real world experiance instead of what you see on TV then possibly you will be qualified to discuss this subject, until then you are only exposing your lack of knowledge
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