Let me suggest to you something that you may not have thought of...
First off, I ain't bashing Haas. I own two of them.
But...the whole priceing thing is marketing stuff...
You are in fact paying a premium for Haas to hold your hand and tell you what you "really" need. Just because Haas has a nice website, does not mean they make the best machine. To think so is somewhat silly.
Mori Seiki gives no prices on their site. It is in fact one of the worse sites I have ever seen but you can not deny that they make a nice machine.
Here's my point...
If you sit down an dthink through just what you want on a machine, you can do much better both in price and performance than a Haas. I ain't bashing Haas. But I don't drink the koolaid any more either.
I was going to buy a VF2. My local reseller pissed me off and I decided to find an alternative. I bought a box way machine with a Fanuc control, big coolant pump. fourth axis, high speed machining option, chip conveyer, not an auger. For about $15k less than the Haas. It will run circles around a VF2. I use it to cut 316L all day. My Haas would be just flappin it's skirts over that.
I also turn a bit of 316 and incolnel. I have an SL10 that will not cut the stuff. Won't do it. My Daewoo will.
I ain't bashin Haas. But I AM saying that there are other options out there where you can get more machine for less money. But you have to know what you want in a machine.
Seems lots of guys are new to machines that buy Haas. That fits in with the marketing thing.  |