I'm sorry, my previous post made it confusing as to who said what, let me post again. I wasn't familiar with how it worked. Ignore my previous post and read this instead, I've made it clearer as to who said what. jhowelb conveniently put quotes in where he was quoting me.
Donna
jhowelb:When you resort to personal attacks (....current moron in chief ....) you lose all credibility even if personal attacks are straight from the left side play book. There has never been a moron capable of piloting a jet aircraft. (Can you do it?)
Donna:I don't think so, personal attacks against political leaders are a time honored tradition in our country, it's what makes politics interesting. Forgive my being a bit facetious, of course he's not really a moron, it's just his policies that are idiotic. No I can't fly a jet, but I got my student pilots' license once and soloed a small plane, does that count? Well actually I might, I asked a jet pilot that question once. As a small plane pilot would I be able to get a jet down if there were an emergency and I had to do it? He said I probably could if the weather were good and there were no other problems other than the incapacitation of the pilot and copilot. Never had to do it though.
jhowelb:"Going green with synthetic fuels........"
These fuels are MORE caustic to the environment than oil and have the added effect of driving the cost of corn and grain sky high. (All those Latin types can't afford their tortillas, tamales, enchiladas etc)
Donna:I dispute that they are more caustic to the environment, everything I've read says they are more benign, and besides we're running out of oil.
jhowelb:"....hydrogen is going to be the answer."
Yes, the by product there is water, Check it out, water vapor is the #1 green house gas!
Donna:Water vapor is a lot better than CO or CO2. It'll just join up with other water vapor, form clouds, block out the sun, cool the earth and make rain.
jhowelb:"The Europeans do it by settling on a standard design that has all the kinks worked out and then building them all alike."
this is called group think and it discourages innovation, which is the greatest detriment to progress brought on by socialism as seen in the USSR.
Donna:At the present state of development I think they could come up with a nuclear plant design that would be about 95% optimum. The cost of further development would yield much diminished returns. The cost of designing all new plants every time with the regulatory and safety issues is one of the reasons it's so expensive.
jhowelb:"But it will probably have to wait until we can get religion out of politics. The Christian conservatives would probably think this is just what god had planned."
Well there ya go! THERE is your problem! THIS has become your religion because you have no faith in God (CAPITOL G) nor man and want to force your faith upon the rest of us.
Religion is spine of politics, politics is war continued by other means and war is the perpetual state of mankind. Try to separate then and they fold in upon you!
Donna:Those of us who are atheists are perfectly capable of gentility. Religion implies faith, and faith implies belief without proof. This is the diametric opposite of the scientific method and is where all the trouble comes in. Believing in something because you want it to be true. "I don't like global warming so I'll just say it isn't true." Hey, that was easy, now let's try evolution, "I don't believe in that either because that's not the way god, err, excuse me God said it was done in the bible." Pretty soon you're creating policies based on what feels good. "God wouldn't like stem cell research so we can't have that either." Never mind that the tissue was going to be thrown away anyway. People are dying because of the imbecilic policies of this administration and conservatives in general.
jhowelb:Nice try but you still haven't shown me any reason to open my pocket book to your cause especially at the expense of our national economy. Sell it first in China and India!!
Donna:Now imagine what the world would be like if Al Gore hadn't had the election stolen from him by the supremes. He would have encouraged conservation. What did this president do, why the Hummer exemption, buy the big gas guzzler, use all the fuel you want, I'll go over and bump off Sadam and steal all his oil. No, we wouldn't be embroiled in this Iraq debacle, we could have done the same thing with conservation. The insane policies of the current administration will soon have added about a trillion dollars to the national debt. About $6,000 for every man woman and child in the country. A trillion here and a trillion there, pretty soon your talking real money, to update the Everett Dirksen quote. The middle class would certainly be better off. This presidents war on the middle class has made all of us poorer. More and more of the tax burden is being loaded off of the rich on to the middle class. Even some of the very rich are scratching their heads over the illogic of it. Warren Buffets recent remarks that his secretary pays more in taxes as a percentage of her income than he does comes to mind. No my friend, we are a lot worse off because of the imbecilic policies of this administration. Plus, in the midst of all our other problems, he's about to get the cold war cranked back up! Did I say he wasn't a moron? Maybe I was wrong.
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