I also agree with you all. asking any competitor, former employer or X business partner I have never got a good or happy story form them about the debocled friend ship.
We all start somewhere, I worked for a sign shop before I thought I could do better on my own. I did open my own but I did it in a different city 4 hours away from my previous employer. I still give him props on my website because without him I would not have been turned on to this whole sign thing in the first place.
I could call almost any CNC place and ask about another CNC place and they will indefinately bash them. It is competition all these machines do is run a program of xyz figures. there is not any real technology here. they are all about the same size, color, speed and features. It is all based on the size features and at what price we small shops can afford.
This whole thing about the chinese machines that was brought to us by rocket has really goten blown out of porportion. almost all the components on most of these american machines (correct me if I am wrong) mainly the spindels and electronic componets. probubly are made in foreign counrties anyways.
rocket I appreciate you starting this thread but now we have learned that there are distributors for this same machine here in the states and canida. I would not have even found about this untill you got us thinking about it.
other members on here seem to be VERY bitter about the whole excitech xhyd maxicam thing and he has sent some bad pm's to us. It may be true it may be not true. We are mostly good christians here but we are not perfect and you could find dirt on almost all of us.
I just want a machine that fits my requirements, at the price a small shop can abtain.
there has to be 200 cnc places out there and yes we try to find the best one when all along they are all the best some have just been around longer, spent more time developing and making there machine a little different. Some just have more money backing them to make them selfs look bigger and important. So for that reason alone we pay more for there machine because they look like big timers.
I am seeing this in my own town. I am one a guy shop., a bigger sign shop has 6 locations and 60 plus employees 102" printers, boom lifts, engeneers, ect.
Can they design a logo or sign better? No actually I put more creativity into mine and personal touches but I do 10 big signs a year they have to do 300 a year. and they can get the sign done in a fraction of the time I can but they have the work force to do so and they have to to make the bills.
so does that make me a pidley nobody? am I less of a person because I don't have a huge shop and employees?
I kinda despise those big rich business aho## owners , driving around in there hummers and feraris and million dollar houses and they do nothing anymore. just get up and look at their bank account rise and there min wage employees who can't even feed there family.
I think I am going to stop posting here and keep in touch with a certain member and do more covert searching until I have a machine sitting here. then we can talk about tips and trick with A cnc vs the trying to find the best cnc.
this chinese machine if you want to get technical when compared to one of the top cnc US machines actually falls short as far as specs.
another US machine I looked at was offering
3 hp spindel
4x8
No Vac table
travel speed 600
max cut speed 450
the chinese machine
4 hp Liquid cooled spindel
5x10
5.5 HP vacume table
trans speed 1250
max cut 787
all this difference for around $12,000 less
so If you want less for more
I kinda like more for less I don't know about you.
Every one Make your own evaluations and decissions I really is up to each shop owner to decide what he is really getting into.
later
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