ok, doanwannapickle, like i said, i was having trouble getting quick cad to load, messed around with it for a while and finaly got it to run, but couldnt open the file ( 1/3 of the files that i WROTE WITH IT wouldnt laod either!!) so i went through photoshop and made a b&w tracing of the final shape. does this help??
THANKS A TON!, sz