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Old 09-16-2005, 03:37 PM
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Upgraded Software 107 On 8-9-05 Still Big Problems

THIS IS A RECENT MESSAGE I SENT FADAL.
I COULDNT FIND THIS WEB SIGHT FOR A LONG TIME.
SHOULD HAVE PAID MORE ATTENTION TO ALL OF U GUYS LAST YEAR
WHEN I RAN ACROSS IT WHILE I WAS SHOPPING FOR A MACHINE.

To Whom It May Concern:
I would like to say at this point I’m very disappointed with this controller, in
fact I’m totally fed up. I can’t trust the machine to do the simplest task.

I have been programming and making parts on CNC equipment for the past 28
years. This 104/D control has been the most frustrating experience in my entire
time as a machinist.

Take this simple little program for example.

N1 O1
N2 M6 T1
N3 E1 G0 G90 X0 Y0 S2000 M3
N4 H1 Z.1
N5 G1 Z-.1 F50.
N6 G1 G41 G91 X1.
N7 G3 I-1.
N8 I-1.
N9 G1 G40 X-1.
N10 G0 G90 Z.1
N11 M5
N12 H0 Z0
N13 E0 X0 Y0
N14 M2

Using cutter comp, I should be able to make a 2 inch hole with a
1 inch cutter, and do a spring pass. First of all; the machine never makes the second pass around. It skips over N8. Second; it dose not use cutter comp correctly, loosing it before the canceling move (gouging the part) and then picking it back up later showing an axis shift at the end of the program.

This machine is supposed to be high speed processing, I don’t see much difference in it and other machines I’ve run. And in this day and age why am I so limited with the size of the program?
If I had gotten this machine for mold making, it would not have been on our floor a week. It dose not live up to the claims.

Let me say it one more time, I cannot live with these issues regarding programming. I have to get the results that I expect or I will always be reluctant to attempt any high $$$$$$$$$ parts on this machine.
I have to have a machine I can trust.

Let me go down the list of things that have plagued this machine.

1. While tapping a 1-12 thread in steel the machine stalled out.
I don’t know if it ran out of torque or the belts slipped,
Who knows I don’t have a load meter. Regardless, I got the high
torque option. It should be able to tap a 1-8 in steel with no problem.
2. Program picks up feed rate of next block before it gets there.
3. Tool release button needs a delay.
4. No loop counter on sub program repeat.
5. Program must be re numbered before M00 or M01 will work consistently.
6. Single block dose not activate right away, and is not consistent in the way that it works.
7. Spindle and coolant used to come back on automatically after opening the doors. Now it doesn’t.
8. Can’t shut off spindle when single block is activated.
9. Program skips over blocks of information.
10. Gibbs SFP can’t be used while machine is running. Who is going
to use it if you have to shut the machine side down?



Problems that were fixed.

1. M4 remains modal.
2. X axis has not run off like it did 5-25-05.


Sincerely,
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